Karan Thapar attacks those who, according to him, are selective in their approach, but he conveniently ignores what Pakistan and Muslims did to Hindus and Sikhs in what is now called Pakistan-occupied-Jammu and Kashmir PoJK
Commentator Karan Thapar is extremely unhappy these days. He is angry with those who talk about what happened to Kashmiri Pandits in 1990 and who describe it as ethnic cleansing and genocide. His fundamental complaint against them is that they are selective in their approach and they do not utter a word about what happened to Muslims in Jammu city five decades earlier. To express his unhappiness, he came out with an essay, “We cannot be selective about the past in Jammu and Kashmir”, (Hindustan Times, September 15, 2019).
Expressing his anger, Thapar wrote: “These days, we hear a lot about what happened to Kashmiri Pandits in 1990. It’s often described as ‘ethnic cleansing’ and ‘genocide‘. For some, it’s justification for the recent de-operationalisation of Article 370. But not a word is spoken about what happened to Muslims in Jammu five decades earlier. That’s been completely forgotten. Yet, as Wajahat Habibullah, who was divisional commissioner (Kashmir) in 1990, when the Pandits were targeted, tells me this was, even more, a case of genocide or ethnic cleansing”.
He just didn’t stop here. He went on to suggest that Hindus of “Muslim-majority Jammu city” massacred thousands of Muslims and expelled lakhs to convert it into a “Hindu-majority city”. He based his wild accusations on what he described as contemporary accounts and accounts of historians.
All these statistics speak for themselves and expose the propagandists. These suggest that Jammu City was not a Muslim-majority City.
What exactly did he say? He said: “I turn now to Jammu just after Independence in 1947. At the time, it was a Muslim-majority city. But literally, in weeks, communal riots, mass killings and forced migration turned it into a Hindu-majority one. Both contemporary accounts and those of historians put the numbers killed or expelled in hundreds of thousands. Writing in The Spectator in January 1948, Horace Alexander says: ‘Hindus and Sikhs of the Jammu area…apparently with at least the tacit consent of state authorities, have driven many thousands of their Muslim neighbours from their homes’. Christopher Snedden, in Kashmir: The Unwritten History, estimates between 70,000 and 237,000 Muslims were killed. Arjun Appadurai and Arien Mack in India’s World believe 200,000 could have been killed and a further 500,000 displaced. Last year, the columnist Swaminathan Aiyar wrote: In sheer scale, this far exceeded the ethnic cleansing of Pandits five decades later”.
After dubbing the Hindus of Jammu as killers of Muslims, Thapar says that it is immoral not to remember what happened to Muslims in 1947 and suggests that if our memory becomes selective, it also becomes one-sided and that could divide us.
“I realise that in terms of how much has changed since 1990, leave aside in 1947, India is a very different country today. I also accept we need to move on and must not keep reliving the past. But if we’re going to recall what’s happened to Pandits in 1990, then it’s wrong – actually immoral – not to remember what happened to Muslims in 1947. This is not a matter of intellectual honesty, though it’s that as well. It goes far deeper. It touches upon the unity of the multiple peoples and their identities that constitute India. We need to be conscious of all of them. If our memory becomes selective, it also becomes one-sided and that could divide us. We could end up a very different country to the one we want to be”.
Was what Thapar wrote and suggested based on facts? Was the Jammu City a Muslim-majority City? Did the Hindus of Jammu City actually kill 70,000 to 237,000 Muslims? Did the Hindus of Jammu City expel 500,000 Muslims?
It would be only desirable to quote verbatim the relevant statistics from the Census Reports. Such an exercise will help us put things in perspective and expose the propagandists.
The total population of Jammu City in 1941 was 50,370. It was 31,506 in 1921; 38,613 in 1931; and 76.558 in 1951 (A-4 town and urban agglomeration classified by population size class in 2011 with variation since 1901 census). It needs to be underlined that while the population in Jammu City increased by 26,188 persons between 1941 and 1951, it was increased by 11,757 persons in Jammu City between 1931 and 1941. As for the total population of Jammu City/Urban Agglomeration, it was 31, 508 in 1921; 42,794 in 1931; 58,847 in 1941; and 83,847 in 1951 (Ibid.)
The population of Jammu City
Year Population
1921 31,506
1931 38,613
1941 50,370
1951 76.558
It would also not be out of place to quote statistics relating to the population in the Jammu District between 1921 and 1951. These statistics will also help debunk the outrageous claim that the Hindus of Jammu City murdered and expelled Muslims to convert it into a Hindu-majority City or convert the whole district into a Hindu-majority District.
The total population of Jammu District was 285,361 in 1921; 316,647 in 1931; 364,253 in 1941; and 401,532 in 1951 (A-2 Decadal Variation In Population Since 2001, Census of India 2011).
The population of Jammu District
Year Population
1921 285,361
1931 316,647
1941 364,253
1951 401,532
Karan Thapar suggested that the Hindus of Jammu City killed 70,000 and 237,000 Muslims and expelled 500,000 others.
What was the total Muslim population in Jammu city, Cantonment and Town Area Committees (TACs) in Jammu district in 1941? The total Muslim population in Jammu City (Municipality) in 1941 was 15,920 (Males 9,751 and Females 6169). As for the Cantonment, it housed 8,468 Muslims (Males 6,552 and Females 1, 916). And the total Muslim population in the Akhnoor TAC was 1,564 (Males 852 and Females 712); in the Samba TAC, it was 1,246 (Males 633 and Females 613); and in the Sri Ranbirsinghpura TAC, it was 1,060 (Males 592 and Females 468). To be more precise, the total Muslim population in Jammu City, Cantonment, Akhnoor TAC, Samba TAC and Sri Ranbirsinghpura TAC was 27,012 (Census of India 1941, J&K, parts I and II, PP. 102-103).
Muslim population
Year Place Po
1941 Jammu 15,920
–do– Cantonment 8,468
–do– Akhnoor 1,564
–do– Samba
–do– Ranbirsinghpura 1.060
All these statistics speak for themselves and expose the propagandists. These suggest that Jammu City was not a Muslim-majority City. The question to be asked to Karan Thapar is: How could about 35,000 Hindus in Jammu City kill 70,000 to 237,000 Muslims in Jammu City and expel 500,000 other Muslims from Jammu City? Will he answer this simple and straight question? I leave it to the Thapar’s discretion.
However, to say all this is not to suggest that no Muslim was killed in Jammu City in 1947 or no Muslim quit Jammu City. Some might have been killed like many Hindus. The problem is that there is nothing on record which could throw light on this subject. However, one can say with some degree of confidence that 100s of Muslims had migrated from Jammu City to Pakistan in 1947 in the wake of the communal partition of India. The evacuee properties in Jammu City do suggest so.
Karan Thapar attacks those who, according to him, are selective in their approach, but he conveniently ignores what Pakistan and Muslims did to Hindus and Sikhs in what is now called Pakistan-occupied-Jammu and Kashmir PoJK. PoJK comprising Jammu’s Nowshera, Rajouri, Poonch, Mirpur, Bhimber, Kotli, Muzaffarabad, to mention only a few towns of Jammu province, housed lakhs of Hindus and Sikhs. What happened to them and to these areas? All these areas were converted into 100% Muslim in a short span of just 3 months (October 1947-December 1947) through rape, murder, torture, conversion, loot and plunder and it should clinch the whole issue.
Karan Thapar would do well to visit Jammu to meet them, around 1.5 million Hindu-Sikh refugees from PoJK, Pakistan and Kashmir itself and present to the nation a true story of facts.
Note:
1. The views expressed here are those of the author and do not necessarily represent or reflect the views of PGurus.
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Karan thapar, his father , his uncle, his cousin sister, his grand father are all traitors to dharma. They are muslims with Hindu names , just like so many Modern day leftists are Murderous Marxists with Hindu names
KT is a crook,he always distort the fact to appease the gandhis for his vested interest.
Karan Thapar is hopelessly wide off the mark. He is feeling increasingly marginalized with Gandhis no longer able to dole out what they could
easily do earlier. Drought for people like him and the likes is going to continue for atleast another 10 years by which time they would have ceased to be of much utility to the Gandhis. It’s curtains for them howsoever hard they try now.
Want to add on….
Any protest against government or any trade ban is done for some reason by missionaries…
China had its own say in appointing heads of churches…
But the Hong Kong protest backed by missionaries n trade ban imposed on China made it take back its right…
And now Vatican appoints it’s first head in China…
How cruel… (Christianity= cruelty, cunning)
How can one small city or a few popes control other countries?
Turkey I guess had arrested some missionary agent n think about the ruthless way USA behaved just to free that pastor…
These people will face bad ends..
Think about the attitude of Sonia in pressing Nepal release some missionaries long back when she went to Nepal with her husband Rajiv.
She later succeeded in making Nepal a secular country n lose its Hindu identity…
They have sins all over… They will face worse things…karma will never leave them…
Ha sir,
You write a lot of things but if only you write to make every one understand it will be helpful…
Well…
Reading about the love for Muslims n writing against Hindus I immediately got to know that Karan Thapar is a Christian…
These Christians are intelligent to set others fight n they enjoy it as a third person..
In a movie (Wednesday remake) Kamal would advocate the killing of Muslims …I was really wondering how he became so brave to show it in movie…
He had converted then n got the support of Christians n hence with a Hindu name he dared to do that ….
Christian groups are always working to destroy Muslims through Hindus or Hindus through Muslims or secular namesake Hindus…
They are usually very careful in not letting their true identity out…
They are the real trouble makers for any society…
If they didn’t attack muslim countries for their wealth, even the muslim countries would have progressed…
But they want to acquire their wealth n want to have their puppets in muslim countries…
British came for trade n ruined us,
They went to educate the Africans n ruined them, God knows what these people want to do to the world…..
Two world wars because of them…
Slowly in the name of offering help they have settled in Japan too I believe…
Korea too has a lot of missionaries …
Wherever these people go, it gives only selfish, idiotic n arrogant people.. who lose their mind n become slaves to these missionaries…
Freedom of expression is being grossly misused in india . There are few papers in India who spread fake news and fake articles denigrating their homeland and hindus, perhaps for few pennies. What does KT achieve by writing article demonising hindus ? It was islamists who brutalized India / hindus from their invasion after 1000 AD. Who asked for separate homeland for muslims in 1947 and who sliced a part of India and how are muslims thriving in India ,inspite of getting a separate country for them ? Hindus have given shelter to Jews, parsis, Dalailama, Afghans and rouge Rohingyas and bangladeshis. In return the bindi wearing with orange wristband KT [ taunting hindus ] had branded hindus as exterminators which is loathing. Pakistan Times, sorry Hindustan Times publishing the article should be applauded for their brave act of accusing hindus.
Why cant the lobby of Pak supporters and hindu haters[ pseudo hindus or hindu name carrying christians ] migrate to Pak and i am sure many indians will provide them with sponsership.
No country has defeated the demonic communism by Democratic Process, all countries who defeated communism is by physical liquidation of this barbaric ideolgy. these are just plain worst deranged beasts and criminals hiding behind the mask of ideology, The cowardly Bangali is most infested with this communism ONLY because NEHRU AND GANDHI family mollycoddled these genetic lumpens (becuase these traitors helped Nehru in liquidation of Netaji in USSR thru Stalin, and possibly also in sudden mysterious death of Sardar Patel in 1950 just after Hyderbad action and Lal Bahadur Shastri) They bring the word like FASCISM, Communalism and all rancid BS to abuse
Islam & it’s supporters are big liars. They live in lies from the time they wake up in the morning to the time they go to bed,Karan Thapar among them. Does this idiot not know that a separate country Pakistan was demanded by Muslims of India and in 1947 many millions of Hindus migrated from Pakistan to India, millions were even killed during that exchange? Many times more Hindus were killed than Muslims. The tolerance/accommodation of Hindus is proven by the fact that many Muslims stayed back in India to keep the agenda of Gazwa-e-Hind alive in Hindustan. But I think, today, Hindus are woken up from the slumber induced by Nehru’s secularist opium. That is why the likes of Karan Thapar who are paid agents of Chrialamism are angry and are trying to prove their loyalty to their paymaster by writing such trash.
Hari Om Sir is wasting hsi time talking logic and facts with Orwellian Goebellian Vatican streetdogs like Karan Thapar..THESE PAKISTANI PIGS NEED TO BE THROWN OUT, PAKISTAN IS PUNJAB AND THESE PAKIPANJABIS HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE IN INDIA..WITH IRANIAN PARSIS AND PORTUGUSE-SYRIAN-WHITE BSTD XTIANS THEY OWN 98% OF INDIAN WEALTH WHICH BELONGS TO NATIVE 100% INDIAN GENETIC HINDUSTANIS against these 5% HARAMIS (HYBRIDS).It is these HYBRIDS who are outsiders..MUSLIMS ARE JUST BEING USED AS CANNON FODDER BY THESE WHITE BARBARIAN AND DEBAUCHED WHITE D..WORSHIPPING POLY ORGYIST SLUTS HYBRIDS WHO OCCUPY BHARAT..THE BDESHI-PAKIPANJABI-IRANIAN-SYRIAN-PORTUGUESE AXIS OF EVIL LED BY ITALIAN AND VATICAN-CHURCH..
The evil Italian White- Vatican OpusDei ChuRCH conspiracy revolves around creating a FATRICIDAL WAR BETWEEN HINDUS AND MUSLIMS SO THAT INDIA CAN BE BROKEN ..THE HYBRID PIGS PLACED CUNNINGLY IN INDIA BY THE EVIL WHITE..THE PAKIPANJABI AND BANGALI WHO ARE ETERNAL WILLING WHITE SKIN SLAVES, WHO WILL LICK THE ASSES OF THEIR DOGS CLEAN, AND SEND THR DAUGHTERS EVERY HOUR FOR WILLING ORGIES, just to geta chance to clean gutters in White countries (Most gutter cleaners in EU, US Canada even third rate but white Poland are these Pakistani slithered PANJABIS and Bangad WHOse children become suspiciously white skin and blue eyed for actual parents
BHARAT BACHANA HAI TO PAKISTANI PANJABIYO KO BHAGANA HAI
NAA SAMSHAN DENGE NAA KABARISTAN DENGE..PAK OR BELOVED ITALIAN GUTTERS SHD BE THE PLACES THEIR ASHES ARE BURIED
Karan Thapar is a Paki Panjabi, the bastards created by hunderds of years of White d..k worshipping paki panjabi sluts brothels.. His family slithered into India in 1947,because the rattlesnakes wanted to live and breathe, even these f.k mother f..king bastards wanted to live, yeas even Pigshit wriggling flies value their filthy lives and these paki panjabis bastards are worse than that, AND IN THEM THIS CHRISTIAN PIG FAMILY..WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN SLAUGHTERED MAN WOMEN AND CHILD LONG BACK..TWO BIT UNEDUCATED JOURNO, JUST SPEAKS ENGLISH WITH A FIXED JAW (Give me a chance, i will give a Tae-kown do kick of 600 lbs on his jaw, if it does not loosen will try again)
1. HIS CHRISTIAN CALL GIRL SUPPLIERS TO WHITES GRANDFATHER, WAS A SUPPORTER OF GEN DYER, WHO GAVE A SIRAPA AND Rs 1.75 lakhs to Gen Dyer just after Jallianwala massacre (for welfare of his troops tired by firing on Unarmed people–to entertain them at his home with hsi women)
2. His NotorIous evil (Official) Father, PAKI PANJABI CUNNING, EVIL SLY TRAITOR P.N THAPAR as ARMY CHIEF DELIBERTALY ON NEHRU ORDERS LOST WAR TO CHINA..AS HE WAS THE BROTHER OF ROMESH THAPAR–(PAKIPANJABI PIT VIPER SLITHERING IN FROM HELL HOLES OF PORKISTAN) WHO WAS GS OF COMMIES IN 1962 (NEHRU CONSPIRACY TO HAND OVER TIBET TO CHINA–DEFENCE MINISTER A COMMIE PIG KRISHNA MENON and a Chritsian, P.N Thapar a Christian, Commie Pig) (Official Father P.N Thapar as its well known in Delhi Lutyens brothels that Karan Thapar was actually Romilla Thapar and Nehru prd and was adopted by P.N Thapar, in exchange this pakipanjabi beast wannabe white, was made Army Chief)
3. ROMILLA THAPAR his Aunty (Or Mom): ONE WHO WAS PLANTED BY BRITS AND NOW ENEMIES OF INDIA TO DESTROY INDIA
4. His daughters, granddaughters and nieces all “married”some 2-3 times, but always to White,
Like Paki panjabi filth, whose hand in all terrorism in India with Xtians is being exposed left, right centre (all LeT HAWALA OPERATORS Caught by NIA are these Xtian Pkai panjabi-Greeko Iranian Turkish British khicdi pigs with barbaric DNA of Whites)
THIS THAPAR FAMILY IF MADE 6 INCH SHORT WILL RESULT IN SOME 25 DEATHS AND THAT TOO OF PAKISTANIS HYBRIDS (Whose blood is avctually not worth the gutters in which it will flow so lets go for slow burning at stakes so that water is protected, their remains can be thrown in Italian sewers which they worship)..But it will release minimum of Rs 15000 Crore of property and money sufficient of 150 multispecialty hospitals planned under Ayushman Bharat Yojana for Poor. I have not seen any Filthy Commie Pig making a SINGLE PAKIPANJABI OR XTIAN short by 6 inches, but WE NATIVE INDIANS, WHOM THESE PAKIPANAJBIS HAVE ENSLAVED UNDER NEHRU BRITISH CONSPIRACY TO KEEP PAKISTAN AND INDIA INPERPETUAL SLAVERY should take the lead. Pakistan Baluchistan, NWFP, Gilgit Baltistan is UP IN ARMS AGAINST THESE EVIL WHITE SKIN DEMONS PAKIPANJABIS..NATIVE INDIANS SHOULS ALSO start NOW
Pls send a strong rejoinder to Hindustan Times n call his bluff to set the record straight…